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Robutnua

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Today i went to retweet a tweet and noticed it now pops up a box to add a comment to the retweet vs just retweeting. However you can just click retweet w/o comment which essentially does the same thing .. so why bother I wonder?

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If anybody wants to clean up facebook from ads, junk posts, annoying friend posts ect, this is a great browser extension created by a German guy:


I used it about a month now and makes fb bearable these days.
 

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Facebook is shutting down its Cayman-resident, Irish-registered holding structure after routing over $40 billion through the low-tax scheme over the past decade. What role Ireland will play in the group's new corporate arrangements?

Interesting times ..
 

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Eventually got around to watching this on NETFLIX. Worth the look, new alot of it already but seeing it laid out on screen makes it even more concerning:


Watched that over the weekend. Nothing at all surprising in it for me, working in IT & the Web for too long. I really do think the USA along with many of the rest of us has been manipulated & gaslit to death by SOCIAL MEDIA. And I would guarantee that person mentioned in that nurses tweet has been also. Yes people need to take own responsibility, but I really do think SOCIAL MEDIA is destroying us, our democracy/politics, our lives. I would not discount it as some minor player, the opposite in fact.

And this is from a life long IT/WEB person ( my job, my company ) - In a heartbeat tomorrow I would banish SOCIAL MEDIA for ever and for good. It is destructive and as a species we just cannot handle it.
 

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Watched that over the weekend. Nothing at all surprising in it for me, working in IT & the Web for too long. I really do think the USA along with many of the rest of us has been manipulated & gaslit to death by SOCIAL MEDIA. And I would guarantee that person mentioned in that nurses tweet has been also. Yes people need to take own responsibility, but I really do think SOCIAL MEDIA is destroying us, our democracy/politics, our lives. I would not discount it as some minor player, the opposite in fact.

And this is from a life long IT/WEB person ( my job, my company ) - In a heartbeat tomorrow I would banish SOCIAL MEDIA for ever and for good. It is destructive and as a species we just cannot handle it.
Indeed.

Social Media is a perfect platform for button pushing. We all have buttons that can be pressed that turn us from being calm into being angry or which make us want to go out and buy a product.

To make things worse, we give so up much information freely to the Social Media companies not to mention all the information they wrangle out of us with their software.

The Stasi were rank amateurs in comparison to these guys and these guys are operating at a global level.

Trusting them to regulate themselves is even worse than trusting Casino owners to ban anyone with a gambling problem.
 
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Zuckerberg really is a sleeveen.

Happy to ferment a cesspit. Twitter is no angel, but at least they flag posts.

Hopefully Twitter will ban all trumps after inauguration. It would backfire if done before.
 

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GMAIL, YOUTUBE, GSUITE and other GOOGLE services down at the moment.

Disturbingly when you try login to your gmail account via google.ie screen and GMAIL ICON top right you get "COULDNT FIND YOUR GOOGLE ACCOUNT"
 

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everything down ..
 

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Really does expose a huge flaw doesnt it .. the massive reliance on cloud services provided by a very small few companies - Google, Microsoft
 

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Really does expose a huge flaw doesnt it .. the massive reliance on cloud services provided by a very small few companies - Google, Microsoft
It is amazing that it doesn't happen more often. Some of the concentration in the web hosting business is far worse and taking out much the web is theoretically feasible by targeting a limited set of IP addresses.
 

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The Irish Data Protection Commissioner has announced a €450,000 fine on Twitter for data breaches under GDPR.

It’s the first fine on a multinational tech firm from the Irish regulator since GDPR was introduced.

The amount of the fine was disputed among European regulators, with other countries unhappy with the scale of the sanction. However, the Irish offices says the €450,000 is an “effective, proportionate and dissuasive measure”.

The DPC’s investigation started in January of 2019 after Twitter itself notified the office of a breach, namely some private tweets being available publicly.
 

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Coincidentally, I just received an email from no-reply@accounts.google.com asking me to login to my account so that they can check the security of all my app passwords.

I haven't although it looks genuine. My suspicions follow from the fact that Google already knows my Google password. Duh.

The email was sent to my secondary confirmation email acct.

Does anyone know whether Google have a page for checking suspicious emails purportedly from them?

Thanks.
 

Robutnua

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Coincidentally, I just received an email from no-reply@accounts.google.com asking me to login to my account so that they can check the security of all my app passwords.

I haven't although it looks genuine. My suspicions follow from the fact that Google already knows my Google password. Duh.

The email was sent to my secondary confirmation email acct.

Does anyone know whether Google have a page for checking suspicious emails purportedly from them?

Thanks.
Elsewhere discussing this Google down etc. Many are of the impression that Google are installing "enhanced censorship " on their platforms.

And apparently, New censorship got put into YouTube recently.

Gmail has a Confidential mode when composing email ( down bottom of message box ) BUT does that exclude AI Bots watching what you type? Allegedly AI bots also watching and logging what you type in Facebook post responses .. whether you actually post the comment or not.

All seems virtual 1984
 

jmcc

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Coincidentally, I just received an email from no-reply@accounts.google.com asking me to login to my account so that they can check the security of all my app passwords.

I haven't although it looks genuine. My suspicions follow from the fact that Google already knows my Google password. Duh.

The email was sent to my secondary confirmation email acct.

Does anyone know whether Google have a page for checking suspicious emails purportedly from them?

Thanks.
Can't remember if it does but do not use the link in the e-mail without looking at the underlying source of the e-mail.

It may be a phishing e-mail to get your password. Google and other services do not generally store plaintext passwords. They store a hashed or encrypted checksum of the plaintext password.

There is also a fake "An Post missed delivery" phishing campaign underway.
 
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Vega1447

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Can't remember if it does but do not use the link in the e-mail without looking at the underlying source of the e-mail.

It may be a phishing e-mail to get your password. Google and other services do not generally store plaintext passwords. They store a hashed or encrypted checksum of the plaintext password.

There is also a fake "An Post missed delivery" phishing campaign underway.
Thanks for that.

I just received a reply from Google One:

Thanks for being a Google One member!

I highly appreciate that you contacted us for support. Thanks for sending the screenshot too.I understand that you need help with Gmail security. No worries, I know that this is important to you so I will do my best to help.

Based on the screenshot, I can sasy that this is not from Google. If you are not familiar with this service, please block it and delete it right away. I also suggest that you check your account access by checking if your recovery contacts are still working. I suggest you update it just the same.

We appreciate your time and effort reporting this to us. For now, not unless you have access issue, you are all good. We just needed to do all around security check to prevent any damage to your account. Please check out this link which I know will surely help you secure your account further Avoid and report phishing emails

Should you have any clarifications or other questions, don’t hesitate to include it upon your response. I’m always happy to assist!

Google appreciates our members’ feedback. You may receive an email survey after a day or two about your recent support experience. We would love to hear from you!

Keep safe.

Thanks,
Halley P.
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So the original was a phishing email... (Pity about the misspelling of "say" though.)
 
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Thanks for that.

I just received a reply from Google One:



So the original was a phishing email... (Pity about the misspelling of "say" though.)
Halley P sounds very google-ized. Strange language.
 

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Now that's an interesting sidestep. FB may be able to do it because of Brexit. Not sure if it will try the same thing here on in the rest of the EU. The one immediate effect of restrctive regulations is that people automatically look for a way around them. It is the Hacker Ethic that has built the Internet and the Web. A few months ago, the BAI cluelessly wanted to regulate the Web.While they may be very good at what ever it is they do, they simply do not understand the size of the Web. Ireland can, depending on some factors, have millions of websites hosted. The number of Irish hosted domain names (on Irish web hosters and including .IE ccTLD) is heading for half a million.

There is also a drive to weaken the end to end encryption used by some SM apps. Some of these apps already leak huge amounts of user data. The encrypted conversations are almost an affront to the Stasi-like aspirations of some in the EU administration. It seems that the Crypto Wars of the early 1990s (Clipper Chip, CypherPunks and strong encryption etc) may be about to have a sequel.
 

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Now that's an interesting sidestep. FB may be able to do it because of Brexit. Not sure if it will try the same thing here on in the rest of the EU. The one immediate effect of restrctive regulations is that people automatically look for a way around them. It is the Hacker Ethic that has built the Internet and the Web. A few months ago, the BAI cluelessly wanted to regulate the Web.While they may be very good at what ever it is they do, they simply do not understand the size of the Web. Ireland can, depending on some factors, have millions of websites hosted. The number of Irish hosted domain names (on Irish web hosters and including .IE ccTLD) is heading for half a million.

There is also a drive to weaken the end to end encryption used by some SM apps. Some of these apps already leak huge amounts of user data. The encrypted conversations are almost an affront to the Stasi-like aspirations of some in the EU administration. It seems that the Crypto Wars of the early 1990s (Clipper Chip, CypherPunks and strong encryption etc) may be about to have a sequel.

Stasi-like is a bit harsh. There are legitimate reasons for democratic countries to want to decrypt Comms between 'bad actors'' (Daesh for example) and also legitimate reasons for citizens to decline to hand keys over.

I don't have an answer.. and would be very reluctant to hand over my keys.
 

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Stasi-like is a bit harsh.
Rather apt considering the backgrounds of some of the EU politicians and what they want to achieve with the compromise of E2E encryption. Compromising E2E encryption basically allows the authorities to listen in on conversations in a far more intrusive manner than the Stasi did in East Germany.

There are legitimate reasons for democratic countries to want to decrypt Comms between 'bad actors'' (Daesh for example) and also legitimate reasons for citizens to decline to hand keys over.
Yes but this is quite a different thing from handing over keys. They want the encryption to be intrinsically flawed. Bad actors will often take extra precautions (multiple layers of encryption) and may not even use some of the systems that the public use.
 

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Some forums may need to clean up their act fairly soon...

The proposed Bill will involve the complete repeal of the Prohibition of Incitement to Hatred Act 1989, which the Department of Justice viewed as ineffective at combating hate speech.

The planned law will, for the first time, provide protection to trans and disabled people alongside ethnic and religious minorities, immigrants and other members of the LGBT community

There will be a high bar for hate-speech prosecutions and the law will include protections for free speech. “Good faith” contributions to public debates, academia and the arts would be exempt.

While the old legislation protected only groups from incitement to hatred, the new law will protect individuals and groups.

Hate speech would also not necessarily have to be threatening or abusive in nature.

“So, a broadcast or speech which is clearly designed to incite hatred, but is couched in polite or coded language, would be covered by the new offence,” the report states.

The planned Bill will also include stiffer sentences for crimes classified as “hate crimes” such as assaults involving racism or homophobia.


 
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This new law will be interesting. What is hate speech versus valid criticism or highlighting hate speech? There is a need to clean up Twitter and banish fascists.

Consider this: Gemtrails and co are spouting bile. On p.ie, and on twitter, some are reposting this with the tag lines pointing out that this is hateful fascism.

Is that to be banned? Even take a questionably hateful comment by a public rep. Let's say I video their bigoted comments and post them here , with the aim to highlight that TD as being a bit of a racist...

Is that allowed?
 

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This new law will be interesting. What is hate speech versus valid criticism or highlighting hate speech? There is a need to clean up Twitter and banish fascists.

Consider this: Gemtrails and co are spouting bile. On p.ie, and on twitter, some are reposting this with the tag lines pointing out that this is hateful fascism.

Is that to be banned? Even take a questionably hateful comment by a public rep. Let's say I video their bigoted comments and post them here , with the aim to highlight that TD as being a bit of a racist...

Is that allowed?
From @publicrealm 's post it would appear that your scenario might fall foul of several things - firstly the law is designed to deal with the sort of utterance that your TD has made. Secondly, you would have to prove good faifth. Even then, the utterances of your TD could well fall foul of the site rules.
 

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From @publicrealm 's post it would appear that your scenario might fall foul of several things - firstly the law is designed to deal with the sort of utterance that your TD has made. Secondly, you would have to prove good faifth. Even then, the utterances of your TD could well fall foul of the site rules.
I imagine any sanctions would start with low hanging fruit - there are sites where holocaust denial is applauded and where the former Taoiseach was gleefully described as 'the Punjabi Princess' etc etc - encouraged by the site management.
 

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I imagine any sanctions would start with low hanging fruit - there are sites where holocaust denial is applauded and where the former Taoiseach was gleefully described as 'the Punjabi Princess' etc etc - encouraged by the site management.
Quite. The beauty of the waybackmachine means deletion doesn't help either.
 
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From @publicrealm 's post it would appear that your scenario might fall foul of several things - firstly the law is designed to deal with the sort of utterance that your TD has made. Secondly, you would have to prove good faifth. Even then, the utterances of your TD could well fall foul of the site rules.
That's what I thought. Now, consider Trump in the context of this legislation.

Endless racist dog whistling, blatant racism and incitement to hatred (not a stretch - Mexicans / rapists and wanting to send the three Democrat congresswomen back where they came from.

How do we discuss that when reporting on and discussing why this is hate speech is itself illegal .

They say "high bar for prosecution", I would read that as allowing us to call out fascist and racist comments as fair and in good faith public discourse.
 
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"The continued existence of the "Political Irish" discussion forum, post 2021 Hate speech legislation. Discuss".
The main reason for its continued survival and functioning is simply its irrelevance. Fantasists tend not to be worth the bother of prosecution, and the site itself would be very low in the public consciousness. It's not social enough to be "social media" (the same could be said for here, to be fair). The same users would be at more risk for their Tweets and Facebook posts, if they were careless enough to spread the same content across platforms.
 
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